Thursday, June 7, 2007

White Van Speaker Scam

White Van Speaker Scam: What is it?

These scam artists are known to track people down as they leave the mall, come home from school, etc. They look for anyone who appears they may have disposable income and approach them. Usually driving a white van or SUV, they claim they work for a high end speaker/audio/electronic or a delivery company, and they have been given the luckiest break ever. Due to an inventory error, or something like this... they have ended up with extra high end speakers that they want to sell, or they will need to return them to their rich boss. They will be very good actors and very believable and usually get the best of people's curiosty.

Once they lure you to take a look, the white van speaker scam artist show you what appears to be very high quality speakers. They appear to be new in the box and usually has a rediculously high MSRP (Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price) on the box, which helps to justify what you can pay them for the speakers. They will back this up with ads taken out in low end/fake audio magazines that also list the MSRP. They are very prepared and compelling with their story, as they have been known to have inventory tracking sheets, fake business cards, fake pamphlets, the works.

If you choose to walk away from the white van speaker scam, you are luckey. If you say no, they will persue their aggresive sales pitch pulling one of many tactics, which may include acting like you are crazy for turning down such a good deal, asking why and then continuing to persue how you can turn down such a good deal, or telling you that even if you don't want to keep them, you can turn around and resell them easily for more than what he will sell them to you for... he just needs to get rid of them before the boss learns of the error.

If you agree and begin the transaction for the white van speaker scam, they will usually always ask you what you can pay him for the item. If you offer to low, they have been known to act like you are crazy because they are very high end, special order speakers and try to get as much money out of you as possible. They will often joke around that you will owe them some beer money next time they are in town as well, for hooking you up with such a good deal. People have been known to pay hundreds or even thousands of dollars for a speaker set or surround sound system if it appears they are getting a very good deal anyways. (ie: $1000.00 for a $3500 high end surround sound system would be a pretty good deal, right?)

You pay the guy cash, feel good about the deal you just snagged, and leave... but what kind of deal did you really get? This stuff is low end crap.... while youre luckey if the speakrs work and deliver a half decent sound... they clearly do not meet the specs listed on the box. I had a chance to listen to a set of di vinci DV-505 speakers, supposidly an 1800w system and it sounded barely better than the quality of the tv speakers, and considerably worse than a set of Sony 900w speakers I had a chance to listen to as well. This is even the higher end of the scam/crappy speakrs so ive heard... avoid the following brands:

Audiofile
Acoustic Monitor
Acoustic Response, Acoustic Image, Acoustic Lab Technology
Denmark
Dogg Digital, Digital Dogg Audio
Dahlton
Digital Research
Di Vinci
Dynalab
Epiphany
Genesis Media Labs
Grafdale
Digital Pro Audio, Pro Audio, Digital Audio, Digital Audio Professional Speaker Systems, Digital Audio Skyline Digital Research
Epiphany Audio
Kirsch
Matrix Audio Concepts
Millennium Theater Systems (MTS)
Omni Audio
Protecsound
Pro Dynamics
Paradyme
PSD
Theater Research

Just don't forget, never buy anything without a receipt, unless its from someone you know and trust, or if its off of ebay or other similar services where you can complain to a higher power if there are issues.... and if it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

23 comments:

bigg_dummie said...

thx for the info... i jus wish i would have known about it earlier, i jus got hit myself, thought of course i was getting a good deal, but jus like they tekk ya, its like a to good of a deal to be true. that lil' Bastard got me for $400 which he had to follow me to my bank to get tha funds... what is weird is that i had a funny feeling as i was withdrawing the money... and it was exacting as you stated in ur blog. take him out to the titty bar next time he's in town, if i ever see him in town he will be going to tha hospital!!! Detroit (downriver) telegraph rd.

nawT said...

the Di Vinci 505 home theater system I have has the same pts system as a bose system and myself and my family love it!!! Its . Im happy i got my set for $600, I saved money even if it was a scam!
I'm taking those guys to the titty bar

Jeff said...

Dang it... you're right, they are good sales people. And it was a white SUV :/ Let me see if these things work at all. I guess $260 wasn't so bad of a deal. I should have stuck to my initial impression and just left.

Too good to be true then it probably is.

Plus 5 For Sobriety said...

"nawt" Do you have any friends who want the system? Ill ship you mine fresh and new for $500 if you have a friend who wants a set lol.

Johnny said...

Remember what you're Mom said, "If it sounds to good to be true, It probably is." Moral of the story - never buy speakers from a guy in a van in a parking lot. Yes I know a few people who have gotten taken by this scam - don't let it be you.
Last summer i bought a speaker from a very polite and educative man with a van . And what you ca you think about it? It had broken next week after purchasing. I was shocked, no, no, I was astonished!
I wish I obeyed my mommy!!:)

ranger84 said...

nawt, I have the 6 peice surround and two xtra "digital" loudspaker towers, all still in box for 500.00! Tell youre friends and family about this "great" deal!

EmperorWAHOOligan said...

i just got hit outside Costco in Chantilly VA. All I had was about $65 and they took it. I called the police and they said they know about it, but, it isnt a crime. So I will see if they are any good. Cost me a tank of gas, oh well. Gold SUV. I have the license plate you shitbirds if they suck.

I have no name said...

I had a bad feeling about this when it was going on, I should of followed my instinct, but I got greedy. I wish I known about this sooner, I feel so stupid now, but it's a lesson learned. I paid 200 so I don't feel all too bad, but still it's lost money. I didn't try it out yet. I'll probably lay them in a room for decoration as a reminder. If it's too good to be true, it most likely is...

govtmule said...

I got hit today in the Giant Plaza in Centreville, VA off of RT. 29. Two guys in a green GMC/ Chevy Van the barganer was skinny with a tan and the other guy was short and stocky. They said the were from Newport News. He wanted $800 but I ended up losing $160. They smelled like weed a little. As soon as they left i knew it was fake.

aquaplanit said...

like an idiot i got scammed by this just this morning.
i was skeptical about it, but for some reason my intuition didn't stop me.
retrospect is like seeing 20/20...
anyway, once i looked it up online to check out it's real value and see how much it was going for on ebay, i soon learned that this whole thing was a big scam.
The guy was driving a white SUV and caught me while i was just heading out of the parking lot of my work to run a quick errend.
i was reading an article that said to report it to the police, so i did.
They didn't seem to care one bit.
I wasn't expecting to get my money back or anything, but i thought they would want to track down this guy and others like him doing the same thing. It doesn't really seem right, and definitely not ethical, but i guess it's buyer beware.
You live, you learn, you laugh about it later and warn people not to make the same mistake when it comes to buying things from strangers.

snowangel said...

I wish I read this blog about 4 hours ago. I was scammed in New York. Go figure!!! My first offer was $20 and should have stood firm. They pulled out a trade magazine that had the Di Vinci system listed at the price on the box of $3595. They said they had too much inventory, and needed to sell it at more reasonable price. The last guy (if there was one) bought his for $800. So, I offered $500, which they begrudging took. They followed me to the bank too. I requested an invoice, which I did receive, with a business name and a phone number, and "Ralph" signed the purchase as a final payment for the product, so I felt they were somewhat legitimate. Left about 5 messages on the answering machine since returning home. So, if it sounds too good to be true, it definitely is!! I am such an idiot.

terrance said...

well they almost got me outside of lowes but i had enough sense to do some research. That is wat you dummies get for trying to get something for nothing. All of you should be arrested for patronizing crack heads. Suckers
P.S i've got some used fighting dogs for sale for 200.00

terrance said...

well they almost got me outside of lowes but i had enough sense to do some research. That is wat you dummies get for trying to get something for nothing. All of you should be arrested for patronizing crack heads. Suckers
P.S i've got some used fighting dogs for sale for 200.00

terrance said...

well they almost got me outside of lowes but i had enough sense to do some research. That is wat you dummies get for trying to get something for nothing. All of you should be arrested for patronizing crack heads. Suckers
P.S i've got some used fighting dogs for sale for 200.00

terrance said...

well they almost got me outside of lowes but i had enough sense to do some research. That is wat you dummies get for trying to get something for nothing. All of you should be arrested for patronizing crack heads. Suckers
P.S i've got some used fighting dogs for sale for 200.00

wade-ar06 said...

well they got me outside of Sheets in manassas park V.A. and it was only for 200$ for the DV-1420 towers! mine are still workin and sound good! Does any one know how they get these and what the get them for? or do they steal them ?
it was some young punks in a white van!

Carol said...

My son got snagged for $120!
OMG - I was researching how 'good' the speakers were when I stumbled onto your blog!!!

Are they just selling cheap speakers or do you think they took his account information off of his checking account - he wrote them a personal check??

Freaking in MN!!

MrPossible said...

Hey guys i got hit this morning myself by a white male in white toyota rav 4 and i got his plate number i kinda felt that something was fishy but i didnt go with my instinct i paid 150 for my Divinci 6.1 surround sound brand new in the box with the strapps on it still, when i get home im going to try it out and sees what happend if im nit impressed im going to get revenge i have his info, this happend 08/07/09 in Lauderhill,FL

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WALTER said...

It happened to me ... they even promised to come back and hook it up for $100! I AM NOT HAPPY WITH MYSELF.
... he even asked me for an extra $20 for some beers...
sounds like the titty bar guy is part of the scam.. They all probably get together at the end of the day at the titty bar and gloat.

Curtis said...

I'm curious, a couple of people say they like the system, very few have said that the system sucks. to anyone that got scammed, did you actually try out the system before getting on here and whining. you may not have a 3000 dollar system, but you also didn't pay 3000 dollars. I'm wondering if anyone has used the system and what they think about it.

Nick said...

haha like exactly everything i just read was what they were saying to me They were driving a White Denali,it must have been the end of there shift because i drive a beat up dodge intrepid and don't have disposable income lmao, sounded like such a load of shit tho so i told them to go to my school and try it out, They train cops at my school haha

WALTER said...

WARNING TO THE EAST END OF LONG ISLAND.
They are working the area.

If someone knows how to bring these guys to justice please let me know.
They gave me their names and mobile numbers.
SHUMON SALAH
631 609 0143
STEVE GARCIA
631 569 9594
I would like to help bring legal action and maybe get my $500 back.